Subject: Re: Atheists Enemies to our Country
From: KEVIN4VFT
To: Separation of Church/State?
Date: 7/13/99
I quoted John Witherspoon, Signer of the Declaration and mentor of
many Founding Fathers:
>>>> [H]e is the best friend to American liberty who is most sincere
>>>> and active in promoting true and undefiled religion and who
>>>> sets himself with the greatest firmness to bear down profanity
>>>> and immorality of every kind. Whoever is an avowed enemy
>>>> of God, I scruple not to call him an enemy to his country.
>>>> John Witherspoon, Works, (Philadelphia: Wm Woodard, 1802,
>>>> vol 3, p.46 [a lecture at Princeton University])
Witherspoon's ideas represented most of those who signed the
Constitution, as well as all of the states, which prohibited atheists
from holding political office:
http://members.aol.com/TestOath/21atheists.htm
In article <19990713095540.18503.00000017@ng-cc1.aol.com>, His Royal Highness
hleopold@aol.com (HLeopold) writes:
>>>Fuck John Witherspoon's opinion.
I wrote:
>>
>>You probably think that of all of Witherspoon's students, like
>>Madison. You probably think that of all the other signers
>>of the Declaration of Independence. NOW who's the real
>>American?
>
>No, I think that of the quoted comment you put up, IF this is what he had to
>say, fuck him, and the horse he rode in on.
If you posted a lie, fuck you,
>asshole.
Well, I would say your attitude fairly represents that of the Supreme
Court and the ACLU and other Secular Humanists, who seek to
impose their own views on the Original Intent of the Founders,
and turn a virtuous Christian nation
into an immoral, selfish, violent
despotism.
General Leopold's attitude represents nothing short of the death of law
and the imposition of personal tyranny. This is the attitude that has
energized "Americans" to disregard the Founders' warnings
against foreign entanglements and head overseas to butcher
millions of peasants. President-for-life Leopold's posts DRIP
with violence and hatred.
His favorite inherently violent word, never found on the lips of
any of the Founding Fathers,
comes from the German ficken, meaning "to strike"; combined according
to Partridge's etymological dictionary Origins, with the Latin sexual verb
futuere: associated in turn with the Latin fustis, "a staff or cudgel"; the
Celtic buc, "a point, hence to pierce"; the Irish bot, "the male member";
the Latin battuere, "to beat"; the Gaelic batair, "a cudgeller"; the Early
Irish bualaim, "I strike"; and so forth. It is one of what etymologists
sometimes called "the sadistic group of words for the man's part in
copulation."
The brutality of this word, then, and its equivalents ("screw," "bang." etc.),
is not an illusion of the middle class or a crotchet of Women's Liberation.
In their origins and imagery these words carry undeniably painful, if not
sadistic, implications, the object of which is always female. [1]
Or in Herr Leopold's case, the Founding Fathers and their Christian nation.
[1] Barbara Lawrence, "Four-Letter Words Can Hurt You," New York Times,
Oct. 27, 1973
Kevin C.
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